› Forums › Classifieds › Sena Replacement
- This topic has 19 replies, 9 voices, and was last updated 08/26/2023 | 13:05 by Eric Wolf.
-
CreatorTopic
-
August 14, 2023 at 1:11 pm #20273
My Sena is dead so I thought this would be a good opportunity to start a forum discussion about replacement options.
Does anyone know anything about the Spider? It is billed as a low-cost, mesh-capable option to the 50s or 50r. What about the 30K? Other than the upgraded speakers,–which I know are a great improvement–what is the difference with the 50’s?
-
CreatorTopic
-
AuthorReplies
-
-
August 16, 2023 at 10:26 am #20300
The Sena 50 series offers Siri commands and wonder wheel control of volume, along with better speakers and mic.
If you don’t need the above, the 30K is a good mesh option. Don’t know much about the Spider, but Google and YouTube searches should help you out.
-
August 16, 2023 at 1:26 pm #20303
If you are interested in the Sena line and are a First Responder or Military (retired too) they give a nice discount. You have to buy directly from Sena and not a dealer. Their service is pretty good and you can get the item quickly as they are located in Irvine. You might even be able to pick it up. They are right by the Five Points Theater. 888-333-7362.
Our nephew is a Sheriff so he ordered it for me.
-
August 16, 2023 at 4:42 pm #20304
Thanks Steve and Ron,
I did not know that you could control the sena with the wonder wheel. That would have been handy. I’ll check with sena to see how much the discount is. Thanks again.
Anyone else have experience with the spider?
-
August 16, 2023 at 4:58 pm #20305
The discount when buying directly from Sena is 20%, pretty significant. They use ID.me to authenticate your military service and you add that in at checkout when you make an online order. I’ll call them tomorrow to get a better understanding of the difference between 50S ($359), 30K ($299), and Spider ($219). Amounts are list price, before 20% discount.
-
August 16, 2023 at 5:49 pm #20306
If you’re in need of a helmet, I can highly recommend the Sena Impulse modular with built-in mesh – basically a 50S inside the helmet, and they retail for $699. It’s a quality helmet and less expensive than the Schuberth and Shoei.
Just putting it out there…
-
August 17, 2023 at 7:38 am #20307
Thanks Ron. I have a general rule that I don’t try to combine multiple technologies in one device: let the communicator do the thing it is good at and reserve hear protection for the helmet.
I’m curious what others think of this general concept?
-
August 17, 2023 at 7:46 am #20308
But…, I could save a lot of energy, time, and space with this.
Attachments:
-
August 18, 2023 at 8:52 am #20319
I would think the cell phone kicks that general concept out the door. (Phone, computer, camera, gps and whatever app you run can perform.) Perhaps, like that vintage appliance, the cell phone has doomed itself for extinction!)
-
August 20, 2023 at 10:23 am #20321
You can date any movie by the cell phone being used. On our ride starting times we need to add “Pairing time” to our KSU.
-
August 20, 2023 at 10:59 am #20322
Eric, I just installed the Sena SRL which is specific to the Shoei helmet I use. I believe the Spider is mesh only which I translate into no ability to take phone calls.
I had the top of line speakers on my Cardo and the audio quality was much better but not compatible with any one else in the club. After using both, I feel the technology on both is (now) antiquated and does not have an AI engine to manage noise and voice recognition. But, its all we’ve got for now.
-
August 20, 2023 at 12:56 pm #20323
Thanks everyone for your thoughts/help. I decided on the 30K since I already have the upgraded speakers. This way I can still bluetooth pair with 20’s and with my phone.
-
August 20, 2023 at 3:47 pm #20326
Eric I have the Sena Spider used with Shoei Neotec 2 Helmet. I have upgraded the helmet speakers with the SENA upgrade. About $50.
I have it blue toothed to the Garmin NAV VI GPS for GPS. I have loaded all my music to the Garmin and it plays through the Sena and the music and sounds really well. The Garmin routing instructions also come through loud and clear.
I have not been able to get the Sena to connect to the bike TFT, iPhone and Garmin all concurrently. I have tried several procedures but just have not been able get it to work. There seems to be issues with the BMW TFT communication and the pairing all four items.
I have the iPhone paired with the Garmin. the Garmin interfaces with the iPhone and calls can be made and received and are displayed on the GPS. However, the sound of the calls do not come through to the Sena. I have not figured out how to make this work and really have just lost patience trying all the You Tube and Forum procedures.
Working with the unit on the Helmet and using the wheel and pushing the small buttons is just tedious. I rarely have a need to make a phone call while riding so it has not been a real deterrent for me. I have never tried the MESH communications with other Sena users. Riders tell me it works great, but I have not tried it. Again the small buttons with gloves on probably just takes more ‘training” than I have been will to do.
I understand the the pairing interface issues do not exist with Android phones.
-
August 21, 2023 at 1:39 pm #20340
Dan, thanks for a thorough telling of the issues and workarounds you’ve found. This discussion has been good. I’m definitely learning a lot from you guys.
-
-
August 20, 2023 at 9:11 pm #20329
Thanks everyone for your thoughts/help. I decided on the 30K since I already have the upgraded speakers. This way I can still bluetooth pair with 20’s and with my phone.
Sena 30K has the old Mesh 1.0 technology, the 50s utilize newer Mesh 2.0, which is more robust and have a much longer range.-
August 20, 2023 at 10:27 pm #20330
Eric – I believe the 30K can be updated to Mesh 2.0. Download the Sena updater and check for updates.
-
-
August 25, 2023 at 1:54 pm #20363
Eric
i have the Sena 50s-10 which has the upgraded mic and speakers. I went from a 20 with upgraded speakers to the 50 and it was still quite an improvement. Mesh with more than a couple of people on it makes my audio skip in and out. So I usually just turn off mesh.
I believe the 30 is Bluetooth. 4.2 . The 50 is Bluetooth 5.0 which gives a little better battery life and range. Most of the time I use mine to listen to the radio. Yes I can change audio with the wonder wheel.Gary Felkel
which ever you go for I think both will work fine.
-
August 25, 2023 at 2:55 pm #20364
Gary, thanks for sharing your experience. I’ll have to talk to you or Ron about how to pair with the wonder wheel. I also noticed a difference between the 20s and 50s speakers. That was nice. I’ve ordered the 30K directly from Sena using the 20% military discount.
Does the 30K work with the wheel, I wonder? (Did you see what I did there 😉
-
-
August 25, 2023 at 6:33 pm #20366
Does the 30K work with the wheel, I wonder? (Did you see what I did there 😉
Eric – I’m not sure if the 30K supports the wonder wheel, I know the 50S does. After you get it, update it with the latest firmware then pairing it to the bike. Wonder wheel volume control will only work if you listen to your music and such through the bike. So you would pair your phone and the headset to the bike. -
August 26, 2023 at 1:05 pm #20373
Thanks Ron,
I’ve never paired my sena or phone to the bike. Instead, I just paired them together. But I’ll try it with this new sena and see how it works.
-
-
AuthorReplies
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.